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Getting Live to be like MainStage Discussion of music production, audio, equipment and any related topics, either with or without Ableton Live. I've been using Live since version 1 and have written software to help maximize my usage of it.
But it hasn't been the best in terms of my personal usage in live performance when compared to MainStage. In general when we move from one song to the next the configuration for my software always changes dramatically.
Audio channels can be added and rerouted. It's brilliant how it's setup. But, I'd rather use Live. I want to use the new Looper and I have tons of ideas for using Max4Live. And I just like it better in general: the interface, the ease of use etc. Is this possible via scripting? Is anyone doing this via some type of automation that automatically loads in different Live sets?
Thanks - Charlie. Depends on the inherent complexity of your Sets, of course. Each chain contains Racks, and Racks within Racks etc, to allow for lots of splits and layers. The computer sits down at my feet and I don't have to look at it or touch it.
MBP i5 2. I'm processing the two other members of my group as well and would need at least four tracks running, but I don't see any reason why I can't just duplicate the setup you described for each additional track and map the chain selector for each to the same cc. I'll let you know how I get on. Instrument Racks and making clever use of Scenes are pretty much the way to go in a live setting.
What I noticed is that when using chain selectors to switch between "presets" synths or plugins, both run at the same time for just a moment meaning I get a quick CPU spike and depending on how much CPU I am using crackles so I always have to be careful of what presets I am switching between. I wish that if I were to turn off a synth that it would be unloaded immediately and don't use up CPU.
Probably not! Lastly, I really wish I could simply use MIDI program changes to switch between let's say Analog and Operator presets instead of having to setup chains for simple things! Doesn't help with the spike in the jump i guess, but worth a thought if you are battling your cpu. If you don't want to play your set in the same order each night then every song requires a clip that turns off -every- rack not being currently used because you never know what scene you came from or what scene you're going to.
Otherwise you're going to run out of CPU pretty quickly.MainStage 3 lets you take your Mac to the stage with a full-screen interface optimized for live performance, flexible hardware control, and a massive collection of plug-ins and sounds that are fully compatible with Logic Pro X. This program would be great if it was any tiny bit reliable.
After getting the spinning beachball of death while working on a set for an important show, I decided to rebuild it from a similar template only to have it crash the second I touch anything. Get your crap together, Apple. I also have a 3rd party harmonica library and fiddle library which I use for country tunes, doing weird splits and left-right duplicate splits like Spectrasonics uses in Trillian.
Splits are so easy to setup whether velocity or positional. Having full song names is great. I use the notepad in Mainstage to provide lyric and key hints for my vocal stuff. Each song gets individual vocal part reminders. Doing weird quirky things to solve niggly performance problems is something MainStage does very well.
Since I can also run Excel at the same time, I sometimes flip to Excel during performance for additional song information. I could run a Montage which is incredible in its own waybut the MOXF was a steal, the MX49 is crazy cheap for all the great sounds it has, the 2 Yamahas give my rig redundancy, the rig is light to carry, Mainstage has amazing sounds and flexibility via a huge colour screen compared to a synthand I can run other apps.
I can even check the time to see if we should take a break. It's a really great software for what we're paying for. Considering what it can do. Unfortunately the cost is reliability. This is crashed on my during live concerts and that's a really bad thing.
Anyway, 4 Star is all you get from me. Up to six family members will be able to use this app with Family Sharing enabled. Open the Mac App Store to buy and download apps. Description MainStage 3 lets you take your Mac to the stage with a full-screen interface optimized for live performance, flexible hardware control, and a massive collection of plug-ins and sounds that are fully compatible with Logic Pro X. Feb 25, Version 3. This update contains stability improvements and bug fixes.
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Apple Books.Ableton live is another music performance software DAW that many bands use to run loops and tracks. How does it compare to Mainstage in regards to running loops live? So, before every prechorus in one song, you have to tell Live to play the prechorus. This is the same for the intro, verse, chorus, etc.
You can see how much flexibility this provides in terms of structuring your song creatively on the fly. If, during live performances, your song structures change frequently, you can easily adjust this on the fly with Live. Mainstage, in contrast, will play through the song in full, all the while allowing you to change where you want to go next.
The order is already set when you import the song so it will just go there. What it really comes down to is how you need to play your songs. When I play songs with loops, I already know the basic roadmap I am going to use. I could spend a lot of time talking about how Live allows you to more easily warp samples or manipulate your song mid-flow. Likewise, I could mention how Mainstage gives more options for a musician to plug MIDI or audio instruments in or offers more visually. To me, though, it comes down to Live being better at completely impromptu performances and Mainstage excelling with song roadmaps in place.
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Posted on Sep 20, PM. Page content loaded. Sep 21, AM. Question: Q: Mainstage vs. Ableton Live More Less. Communities Contact Support. Sign in Sign in Sign in corporate. Browse Search. Ask a question. Question: Q: Question: Q: Mainstage vs. I am looking to use the application for live MIDI performance and manipulation, recording of and playback of live audio and then transforming them into loops, sound effects and back up band features.
I've been through the specs and ads for mainstage. I have also had limited experience using ableton, but would like to hear from someone who has used both programs and might be able to tell me some of the differences and strengths of each program as well as which one might be more useful for the specified purposes? Thanks in advance. More Less. All replies Drop Down menu. Loading page content.
User profile for user: bdougherty bdougherty. Reply Helpful Thread reply - more options Link to this Post. User profile for user: mlehmann mlehmann. I didn't mess a lot with MainStage but what I've seen is completely different from Live. MainStage is simply a way to use Logic's synths and plugins in a live setup, without the sequencer and with a very simple and easy to use GUI.
It's mainly dedicated to people who want to replace their keyboard or guitar rig with a computer. You can download a trial version of Live at Ableton website if you want to try it. User profile for user: msteveng msteveng.
I would think you could even use Live to drive MainStage as a source of sounds and additional processing.Log in or Sign up. The Gear Page.
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Sep 21, 1. Messages: 20, Anyone using Mainstage for performance? I'm recording 2 projects original and cover projects and I'm really happy with the available sounds and quality that I'm thinking of upping the ante with the cover band to a new level playing with tracks that I create.
I spent a lot of time last night looking at Ableton Live but remembered people mention mainstage. GaspSep 21, Sep 21, 2. Messages: 1, Keyboard player I work with has been using Mainstage live since it's been out, and loves it, a few other keyboard players i know also use it, it seems very stable.
DigitalTubeSep 21, Sep 21, 3. Messages: For tracks playback in our band and for a lot of famous bands as well, Abelton is it!! Stable as a rock and flat out killer. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk.
Last edited: Sep 28, Sep 21, 4. Thanks so much for the replies guys. My mind is blown I was checking the amp sims pretty cool and then I realized for the original recording in Reaper my guitars are using SGear so why not try to incorporate both.
Mainstage found SGear, my softsynth SynthMasters I need to consider a dedicated sound card and have a lot of experience with Focusrite Scarlett and Saffire on the PC side. I've seen some cool vids with a guy using Mainstage and a Focusrite. I think they also bundle those with Ableton Live Lite and some nice plugins as well. I need to map things out but this could be tremendous for stepping this up at cover AND original gigs including acoustic.
I had a Presonus It should also have multiple dedicated outs so for example the click could be routed to a dedicated output and possibly even a dense mix percussion, bass, softsynths could have dedicated outs which would run to an upstream FOH mixer?
I have an acoustic show on Friday, I'm already wondering how to build a rig to get my feet wet. I might be able to leave the G3X in the bag and plug acoustic into the ZED, get some cool sounding patches using SGear and built in stuff in Mainstage.I'm looking to purchase either mainstage or ableton, not sure which one is the better choice.
I want to be able to run patches with my worship songs. I just purchased an Acer laptop, not knowing that mainstage only works with Apple Mac laptops. Is that true that mainstage only works with Apple Mac computers and if so, where can I get an inexperience Mac laptop?
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I know mainstage cost less then ableton. How easy is ableton then mainstage to operate? I'm looking for something simple and basic to operate.
Along with a good laptop, what else will I need? Will I need a special usb keyboard? Will I need a DI box? Basically what would it cost to get up and running with either mainstage or ableton?
What would you recommend? And are there courses out there to help learn the systems? I'm starting out by myself and need a little help. Share Tweet. Views: I can't comment on Mainstage vs Ableton directly although, if you are thinking about cost, Ableton for your existing PC will be a lot cheaper than buying a Mac in order to use Mainstage.
Even secondhand, working Mac laptops are on the spendy side. I do know Ableton reasonably well though, although I've not yet used it at church. If you're playing with other people, everyone has to be able to keep in sync with any loops - even solo, you've got to be sure the congregation will follow you.
On the APC, you get Ableton Live Lite edition - it has limitations but would let you get started and give you an ideal tool for controlling the software in a live setting.
You'd take the sound out from your laptop - in a typical church setting you probably want to run that through a DI box to get the signal to the mixing desk but that's about sound from your laptop and not specifically about the software.
What has prompted you to think this is a route worth pursuing? I'm interested because it sounds like you've got some ideas about a solution but I wonder what your starting point is?
View All. Advertise Code of Conduct Contact Us. All Discussions My Discussions Add. Hi, I'm looking to purchase either mainstage or ableton, not sure which one is the better choice.MainStage has something for every kind of performer. Simplify setup and teardown. And use all your favorite hardware controllers.
Now you can take your performance beyond what you can actually perform. The Arpeggiator features note-based remote controls and flexible latch modes. And Chord Trigger allows you to press a single note and have it trigger an entire complex chord. With Multimapping, you can map multiple parameters to a single control, so you can smoothly manipulate your sound without trying to turn several knobs at once.
And seamless Patch switching lets you hold a chord in one sound while moving to a new Patch. Seamless Patch switching lets notes and chords trail off naturally when you switch Patches. MainStage lets you stay focused on your performance. Keep your hands free by using foot pedals to control the effects you add to your voice. And display large, high-contrast notes such as lyrics and chord changes on your screen. So all you have to think about is singing. Love the sound you got on your recording?
You can even expand your show with prerecorded backing tracks. The MainStage and Smart Controls interface is designed especially for live performance. You get a full-screen, high-contrast, and high-resolution Retina display—supported view of your controls, so they stand out from across the stage.
And you can set things up so each control is linked to a different parameter in each Patch. With MainStage, setting up your stage rig is faster than ever.
Start by choosing from a complete range of performance templates, many of them preloaded with great-sounding Patches. Or look to the all-new Patch Library to find a Patch or sound ready to be tweaked to perfection.
Just save your live set as a project and MainStage puts all the necessary files into a single folder you can take with you anywhere. MainStage supports your addiction to knobs, buttons, and faders.
It can connect with just about any external MIDI device on the planet. And the interface is simplicity itself. No more assigning knobs over and over for each preset.
MainStage 3 also features pickup modes that make fixed controller knobs behave more like the endless encoder knobs found on high-end gear. If your control surface can receive status information from software, MainStage will send MIDI messages to keep your control displays in perfect sync. MainStage lets you record any audio signal passing through.